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No, you’re right, unless they mention it or have selfies all over their blog, you can’t tell race. And it is wrong to assume white until proven otherwise. And there are a great group of Homestucks working to point out the issues within the work and the fandom. But I’m not totally clear about how just asking “hey I saw you did this and I was wondering if you realized the implications of this and how that might affect others” would erase the voice of POC when nobody else has spoken up. Like with the Nazistuck responses I’ve seen, I didn’t say anything because there were already explanations for why you are allowed to tell someone not to wear something if it’s racist and has the ability to seriously alienate and harm people who see it, how it could seriously affect viewers, and why people who are related to Holocaust survivors could be even more adversely affected then just the average person who actually knows anything about the Holocaust. People with more experience and knowledge stepped in and said “no, this is not okay”. But if nobody had, then would it be erasure to link to educational sites run by surviors and their families and other similar examples where groups had spoken out against it said why and say “this is not okay because these people were effected and they say this sort of thing is not okay”? Or would it be erasure if nobody had said anything and I just said “this is not okay”, with no support from the groups that this issue matters most to?
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Nazstuck is a perfect example of what is wrong with the Homestuck fandom.
Someone spent time, energy, and money…
Thank you for providing the links, and I don’t think if would have been so hard to do it in the first place. And the condescending was from you saying “I know this is racist because I am not racist, but I am not going to actually say what was racist and how we should fix it, I’ll just ignore it”. Because if something is racist, and you’re not, it is kind of assumed that if you want to get rid of racism, you talk about it. Because it thrives in silence and ignorance. So it’s perfectly possible to say to someone that you respect their work, and it’s great, but it has this problem that might be more than a little problem. And explain why. And yeah, I’m white too, but you know what? There are plenty of resources and plenty of activists of color and organizations run by POC who say “If you see it, point it out”.
And like most of society, some people won’t know and won’t like being told something is they did was wrong. But that shouldn’t stop people, including you, from saying it anyway.
And thank you for answering instead of just getting offended.
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Nazstuck is a perfect example of what is wrong with the Homestuck fandom.
Someone spent time, energy, and money on making a Nazistuck cosplay. They genuinely thought it was a good idea, they think it’s an okay thing to do.
The problem is, they were right. No, I don’t mean…
Not to sound rude, but not the whole fandom is okay with this…I think it’s a stupid and horrid idea. But there is that thing, what is it, ah yes. What the fuck would we do? I mean sure, people can send some idiotic anon hate and say how much they hate it. But that won’t get anyone anywhere. So don’t be an idiot and go off saying the whole fucking fandom is racist and shit because you don’t know what your saying. Golly.
I understand the desire to defend a fandom that might have provided a safe space for you, at one point, or currently. However, it isn’t a safe place for many people. This isn’t the only example of Homestuck fans perpetuating racism.
Unfortunately, I’m not certain this is even the most extreme example. When I first started my voice acting and Homestuck blog (this one), I followed almost everyone back automatically. Eventually, I had to unfollow hundreds of blogs, and it was a gradual process. The reason being that racist jokes; racist sprite edits; racist fanart; racist comments — were literally flooding my dashboard.
Now, most of the fans posting/reblogging those images were unaware that the images were, in fact, racist. I was unaware of it too, of course, because I’m white, and I often don’t see past my privileges. However, when these fans were individually addressed for perpetuating racism, they reacted with defensiveness, and, in quite a few alarming cases, blatant racism.
I’ve never been personally hurt by racism, because, as I mentioned previously, I am white. Racism doesn’t affect me, as an individual. I didn’t unfollow those people because I was offended, or hurt, by the casual bigotry they spread; I did it because by supporting, in any small way, a group of racists — I was also perpetuating racism.
When a person tries to address a topic that is personally devastating, hurtful, or offensive to them, like references to the Holocaust, and to Nazism (which is still an active force today, unfortunately), they should be listened to. Telling them not to be “rude” because not every fan is like that…is derailment. It makes it easier for people to disregard dehumanization and bigotry, because it constantly redirects the focus to the hurt feeling of fans, instead of the pain of people who are affected by these issues.
To be perfectly honest, every instance in which a fan says “not all the Homestuck fans are like that,” I realize just how like that we truly are. It’s a shame, because if we admitted we have issues to work through, we might be able to make this a safe fandom for everyone; and not just a select few.
So wait a minute, can you please give more examples that weren’t met with people who agreed with one another trying to out-explain each other as to why it was so wrong (like your only solid one)? I don’t know if I just happen to follow only the good part of the fandom due to screening out NSFW (which seems dubious), and you just happened to fall in with the asshole, but I haven’t seen anything that could be called racism except for having all the kids as white and all the humanstuck Alternian trolls white too. And that’s just some people’s headcanon. Or are you talking about humanstuck Damara, who is portrayed as Japanese and has her canon vulgarity-as-a-method-of-premptive-self-defense personality? Or the fact that Meenah and the Condense use the African American Vernacular English canonly, so it’s used in their dialogue in fanworks too? Or am I just such a horrible racist that I’m missing some hidden racist messages in Homestuck fanworks?
I’m sorry if this came off as confrontational, but I tend to write that way when people are condescending and vague, and perfectly fit the “‘enlightened’ apologetic white” troupe, so please forgive me and know that I’m more interested in you answering my question instead of arguing without answering.
I recently skyrocketed past 100 followers, and so decided it was time for a giveaway!
Prizes:
Horns and plushes and cookies and things! Who doesn’t love those?
First prize: One pair of mid-size horns, OR two pairs of small horns and the attaching mechanisms to keep them on your head under a wig, and two squiddle plushes in your choice of color AND a custom-made recipe for your choice of character OR pairing from any fandom of your choice, with as many cookies from the batch that I can fit in a tin.
Second prize: One pair of small horns and a squiddle plush or two mini-squiddles in your choice of color and a custom-made recipe for your choice of character or pairing from Homestuck, with as many cookies from the batch that I can fit in a tin.
Third prize: One custom-made recipe for your choice of character or pairing from Homestuck, with as many cookies from the batch as I can fit in a tin, plus one mini-squiddle in your choice of color.
Fourth prize: One squiddle plush or two mini-squiddles in your choice of color.
So what does that mean?
Mid-size horns include:
- Tavros
- Sollux/Mituna(By default, as they are two sets of small horns!)
- Meulin
- Porrim
- Latula
- Vriska/Aranea
- Equius/Horuss
- Gamzee/Kurloz
- Cronus/Dualscar
- Feferi/Meenah
- Erisolsprite
- Fefetasprite
- Callie-ohpeee
Small horns include:
- All three Vantases
- Nepeta
- Kanaya
- Terezi
Squiddles will be made out of soft and cushy fleece, and do come in most colors imaginable, and even some patterns! if you get a prize tier where you get two, then I can see about putting snaps or magnets in their tummies so they can tangle together, though they do do that well enough on their own!
In addition, if you are following me, you will get things! Bonus things! Mystery things!
The giveaway will end on July 1st, and I will use random.org to determine the winners. Likes and reblogs count, but please be kind to your followers!
Life You Spend: Twitter vs Female Protagonists in Video Games →
Thanks #XboxOne #E3 press conference for revealing to us exactly zero games featuring a female protagonist for the next generation.
— Feminist Frequency (@femfreq)Above is a tweet I made this afternoon in reaction to the fact that none of the games presented at Microsoft’s Xbox One E3 press conference featured female protagonists. Below are some of the Twitter replies to that observation which exemplify the male privilege and male entitlement endemic in the gaming community today. This is also a window into what it’s like to be a female video game critic on twitter.
1. @simplyflyin
3. @Triosem
6. @SethForsman
7. @Beefheart82
8. @AzEHeaD15
9. @NickFuckypu
10. @JLB_esquire
11. @MathiasKaizer
12. @About20Donuts
13. @RogerLateralus
14. @izashid29
15. @BEATandDELETE
16. @B_Razz
17. @twerk_king69
18. @Epsilon_Five
19. @Spyrolic
20. @itwasagoodtime
21. @JerkfaceMcGee
22. @patq911
23. @r0bz0rz
24. @JimPhee
25. @Pootslap
26. @Pokefan1223
27. @Aurini
28. @yutt
29. @HennersQuack
30. @GabeAsterd
31. @MundaBric
32. @DoctorWatkins
33. @xTheShad0wZ
34. @GangWarlord
35. @le_mec
36. @coolguyquietess
37. @OldMiley
38. @TheChad118
39. @dodgykebaab
40. @urafaget
41. @BJ_Dickson
42. @Bloodergo
43. @Uneternal
44. @The_Master_E
45. @TheVidyaBoy
46. @danier_san
47. @ReissDJO
48. @mrdizzy
49. @IntelMiner
50. @AliAdelMohamed
Jesus Fuckin’ Christ.
So the overarching point is that ~49% of the population are the only interesting material for idealized protagonist, and there is no way a significant portion of the other ~51% of the population even play video games, and therefore notice that there is a distinct lack of idealized protagonists available of their sex?
(Sorry for the cissexist and America-centric numbers, but I got my data from the 2010 US Census and rounded to the nearest whole percent (the actual percentage of females in America is calculated to be 50.8392011556425%))
This sort of behavior used to irritate me until I learned about how invasive paparazzi are in America. There are no laws against it.
I’ve also realized, that by flipping off the camera, the pictures can’t be sold to magazines because of “profanity”. So really, she’s just protecting herself.like that time Marilyn Manson went to the airport with FUCK written across his face and he kept apologizing to everyone and people with kids and stuff but he had to so the paparazzi couldn’t take and sell pictures of him
Yea gdont demonize celebs who do this They are trying for privacy if only a little
A little thank you to all my followers! Giving away a zodiac color bracelet.
Rules:
- One reblog per person.
- Likes do not count!
- You don’t need to be following me.
- Winner gets to choose one of the bracelets from above!
- Shipping is on me.
- I will randomize a number and choose the winner.
- The winner will get a note. Please make sure your ask is open!
- If you do not respond in 24 hours, we will choose another winner!
- Giveaway will end on the 24th of June
If you’d like a bracelet without betting on luck, you can find these at my Etsy Store.
GOOD LUCK!
This is supposed to happen the first time Persephone is back to the Underworld….so I went and made a sequel for a comic that hasn’t even happened yet. Wibbly wobbly timey wimey….
Did I regret anything? No. No I don’t.
on deviantart
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He kidnapped her
Against her will
Thanks fo her father after her father raped her
She starved herself to get out of his place
where do people read romance into this, where??ßß1ßewkofp *flops over*
Thanks for continue to focus on the kidnapping part which is not the point of this myth.
Life and Death, the balance between them and the changes they cause, and the origin and meaning of the seasons cycle, on the other hand, are the real points.
Thanks for also persisting in the idea of Persephone as a passive figure. Kidnapped, raped, silenced, with no saying or power over anything (except for maybe starved herself because there are so many different versions of this myth that it’s difficult to keep track of them, did you know that apparently there is a version where she and Hades plot together?)
Thanks for also forgetting that she’s a goddess on her own and becomes Queen and Hades’ equal and actually they’re most stable marriages in the myths.
Thank you, you’ve enriched this post by telling me things I already know but I don’t care about. (◡‿◡✿)
Reblogging for the bitchin’ commentary and also to add that if anyone wants to read the most current (and IMO accurate) studies on Greek mythology and women’s lives, Women in Greek Myth by Dr. Mary Lefkowitz is invaluable (and incredibly inexpensive for an academic book).
The confusion comes from “Zeus” which is almost a title for a supreme god (think of the way “Caesar” was used). So you have Heavenly Zeus and Infernal Zeus, and they are not the same god but rather the supreme ruler of the sky and underworld, respectively. Likewise Persephone became known as “Infernal Hera” and this naming scheme persisted well into the Roman Empire, where Pluto and Proserpina are referred to as “Infernal Juno” and “Jupiter of Dis” in Book 6 of the Aeneid as well as on many grave monuments and in spells.
Moreover, gods don’t need to eat. Persephone refusing to eat was her refusing to become a part of the Underworld, not her attempting to starve herself. The gods are defined as being deathless, and in Ancient Greek “deathless” is synonymous with “god”. (Cf. Theogony, Works and Days, any of the Homeric Hymns, etc.) The Homeric Hymn to Demeter is really clear about this. (HH 2 370-4, 393-403.)
The marriage of Persephone and Hades is actually the most loving and consensual union among the Olympian deities. Hades first offers a dowry designed specifically to please Persephone (HH 2 10-14.), then carries her off and keeps her as a guest of honour in his house. (HH 2 341-345) Persephone is referred to as αἰδοίῃ παρακοίτι - his reverent wife. “Reverent” here refers to a respect for one’s duty, and the similarity between the pronunciation of αἰδοῖος an “Hades” is deliberate and intended to show how well-matched they are. Persephone misses her mother, yes, but is not overly upset about her marriage to Hades. Even Anchises expresses more regret over his union with Aphrodite. (HH 5 185-190.) Finally, as a proper parent, Demeter is rewarded for giving up her daughter, and offers a gift to the other gods in turn. (HH 2 441-495.)
It is worth noting that Demeter is given a position of remarkable power in this myth and is in many ways treated as or better than a father would be. The focus of the hymn remains the relationship between mother and daughter, and emphasises that it is a bond that can endure even after a woman leaves to marry. More importantly, the Homeric Hymn to Demeter is an etiological myth for the Thesmophoria and the Eleusinian Mysteries, a woman-only festival and the most enduring mystery cult of the ancient world. HH 2 serves to anchor women firmly in religious and family life and sets some fairly idealised standards for husbands. Many issues arise when attempting to interpret this myth into a modern context, which is why it is so important to understand that the myth was created over three thousand years ago and is largely a historical document reflecting the mores of the time.
This is the last time I’m reblogging this strip. I edited the original post because I’m really tired of this discussion, but latining’s comment is just perfect and flawless and really educating and everyone interested in this myth should read it.
THIS IS FUCKING BEAUTIFUL AND IM SO GLAD THAT MY BOYFRIEND REBLOGGED IT FOR ME TO SEE AND TO READ THE COMMENTS OMFG
Also like to point out that Hades and Persephone were one of, if not the, most faithful divine couples in Greek mythology.
Compare that to Zeus, who slept with anything that moved.
This comic is beautiful and adorable, and the commentary is (if you’ll pardon the pun) divine. A++, FAVORITE MYTHOLOGICAL COUPLE, WOULD FALL IN LOVE WITH THEM AGAIN.
#seriously people please stop trying to paint her as too dim to remember that eating would keep her there #she was a freaking GODDESS SHE KNEW THE RULES #also who the fuck eats SIX pomegranate seeds unless it’s to make a point? #no one that’s who #[/rant]
I feel like the only modern series that handled Persephone and Hades well was Percy Jackson and The Olympians. Because they acted like that married couple who were married for a long time, but still cared about one another. Although the actual books only had them dealing with the Fussy Mother-In-Law Demeter, the Demigod Files has a really cute short story that really fits with the old mythology as well as the established relationship from the series.
